Sana’s founder and CEO Joel Hellermark sits down with Stanford Adjunct Professor and AI Fund Managing General Partner Andrew Ng for a candid, wide-ranging conversation on the future of artificial intelligence. They explore why “AI coding is the new literacy,” the shift from AI’s “high priests” to democratized creation, and the untapped creative potential in the application layer. Andrew shares hard-won lessons from building Google Brain and Coursera, reflects on the economics and competition behind the language model boom, and offers research-driven insights on productivity, risk, and the path to accessible, responsible AI for all.

Watch the full episode above or read the transcript of their conversation below.